I forgot to mention yesterday. We had the same problem we had the last year when we began last year. When kids are dropped off in the morning and picked up, a massive traffic jam is created which affects roads all round the school. The same thing happened yesterday and today - it was worse today as parents wouldnt just drop and go. They would linger and see how their kids were doing - all this plus very small roads near the school meant really bad jams. So today there was a proposal that the sec school start at 825 am and end at 4pm - all very good from the viewpt of waking up later in the mornings but a nightmare when going home as that is when all the office pple get off and by the time we all get home - the day is all but gone. We of course protested so now they have decided to stagger the dismissal times so different classes go at different times. Someone asked me why there was no planning before but thats the point - a very indonesian concept "Forget the past , like for the present and future? huh what future?" . This waters down to every idiosyncracy that we can observe around . They wait until the paper is finished to order more supplies. The concept of forward planning is indeed alien.